Post by Rogier van Vlissingen on Oct 12, 2006 2:59:16 GMT -5
YIR/PGoTh:
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J said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and they will reign over all."
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Versions: Obviously the main difference between the MM version and the Pursah version is the word choice "disturbed" vs. "troubled," which sounds like a translation problem (I'm guessing, I don't know coptic.)
The seeking which cannot fail to find is the seeking for the origin, the alpha and omega, the beginning of it all the moment of the tiny mad idea, when we are back to that decision moment we will reign over all, for it is then we can change our mind, and let the air out of the balloon of the ego thought system, to witness "The Disappearance of the Universe." etc. That this is highly disturbing (to the ego) needs no comment, and to us, as long as we think we are the ego.
The saying comes back in the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew and Luke, but I'm unclear if that goes back to Thomas or to a possible source in the Q-tradition, and I simply do not have sufficient source material at hand to comment on that. The form in Matthew 7:7 is "seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."
On one level the notion of "seek and you will find" seems to instill the same idea as the Course's "The secret of salvation is but this, that you are doing this unto yourself,"(T-27.VIII.10:1), and other similar messages, not to mention the over all idea that "this is a course in mind training," (T-1.VII.4:1), all of which seek to wake us up to the fact that we do have a mind and that we have the capacity to change our mind, and choose "another way."
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J said, "Those who seek should not stop seeking until they find. When they find, they will be disturbed. When they are disturbed, they will marvel, and they will reign over all."
unquote
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Versions: Obviously the main difference between the MM version and the Pursah version is the word choice "disturbed" vs. "troubled," which sounds like a translation problem (I'm guessing, I don't know coptic.)
The seeking which cannot fail to find is the seeking for the origin, the alpha and omega, the beginning of it all the moment of the tiny mad idea, when we are back to that decision moment we will reign over all, for it is then we can change our mind, and let the air out of the balloon of the ego thought system, to witness "The Disappearance of the Universe." etc. That this is highly disturbing (to the ego) needs no comment, and to us, as long as we think we are the ego.
The saying comes back in the Sermon on the Mount in Matthew and Luke, but I'm unclear if that goes back to Thomas or to a possible source in the Q-tradition, and I simply do not have sufficient source material at hand to comment on that. The form in Matthew 7:7 is "seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you."
On one level the notion of "seek and you will find" seems to instill the same idea as the Course's "The secret of salvation is but this, that you are doing this unto yourself,"(T-27.VIII.10:1), and other similar messages, not to mention the over all idea that "this is a course in mind training," (T-1.VII.4:1), all of which seek to wake us up to the fact that we do have a mind and that we have the capacity to change our mind, and choose "another way."