Post by Rogier van Vlissingen on Feb 18, 2007 19:25:26 GMT -5
P/GoTh:
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A person cannot mount two horses or bend two bows. And a servant cannot serve two masters, or that servant will honor the one and offend the other.
Nobody drinks aged wine and immediately wants to drink young wine. Young wine is not poured into old wineskins, or they might break, and aged wine is not poured into new wineskins, or it might spoil. An old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, since it would create a tear.
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Form: consistency
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Here is how Pursah prefaces this statement on p. 76 of DU:
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Today you and youer firends believe in the existence of a trilogy - body, mind, and spirit. The "balance" of all three is important in your philosophy. But you will soon learn instead that the seemingly separated mind, which makes and uses bodies, must choose between the changeless and eternal reality of spirit - which is God and His Kingdom - or the unreal and ever-changing universe of bodies - which includes anything that can be perceived, whether you appear to be in a body or not. This is a cornerstone of J's message. He really did say, as it was recorded by me in what is now labeled saying number 47: ..." text of logion 47 follows, and conversation is picked up by Gary):
GARY: Are you saying that giving equal value to body, mind, and spirit actually contributes to me coming back here over and over again as a body, rather than being free?
PURSAH: Yes, but this doesn't mean you should neglect your body. We're speaking of another way of looking at it. To finish the ponit about my past beliefs, my Gospel merely recorded things J had said. Unlike the writers of the later Gospels, I was not constantly inserting my opinion. Thus, Thomas ws not so much a reflection of my level of understanding at that time as it is a record of some of J's ideas...
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This statement reminds us of the many ways in which the Course reminds us of the fact that our one real choice is all or nothing, love or murder, and no compromise is possible: accepting the atonement means nothing happened, and thus the ego and the world are utterly meaningless and non-existent.
A member of the DU forum suggested the following Course quote, which is one of the many passages which suggests this either or choice:
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You cannot forget the Father because I am with you, and I cannot forget Him. To forget me is to forget yourself and Him Who created you. Our brothers are forgetful. That is why they need your remembrance of me and of Him Who created me. Through this remembrance, you can change their minds about themselves, as I can change yours. Your mind is so powerful a light that you can look into theirs and enlighten them, as I can enlighten yours. I do not want to share my body in communion because this is to share nothing. Would I try to share an illusion with the most holy children of a most holy Father. Yet I do want to share my mind with you because we are of one Mind, and that Mind is ours. See only this Mind everywhere, because only this is everywhere and in everything. It is everything because it encompasses all things within itself. Blessed are you who perceive only this, because you perceive only what is true.
unquote (ACIM-T.7.V.10)
and likewise we might consider:
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Life and death, light and darkness, knowledge and perception, are irreconcilable. To believe that they can be reconciled is to believe that God and His Son can not.
unquote (ACIM:T-3.VII.6:6)
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A person cannot mount two horses or bend two bows. And a servant cannot serve two masters, or that servant will honor the one and offend the other.
Nobody drinks aged wine and immediately wants to drink young wine. Young wine is not poured into old wineskins, or they might break, and aged wine is not poured into new wineskins, or it might spoil. An old patch is not sewn onto a new garment, since it would create a tear.
unquote
Form: consistency
Content:
Here is how Pursah prefaces this statement on p. 76 of DU:
Quote
Today you and youer firends believe in the existence of a trilogy - body, mind, and spirit. The "balance" of all three is important in your philosophy. But you will soon learn instead that the seemingly separated mind, which makes and uses bodies, must choose between the changeless and eternal reality of spirit - which is God and His Kingdom - or the unreal and ever-changing universe of bodies - which includes anything that can be perceived, whether you appear to be in a body or not. This is a cornerstone of J's message. He really did say, as it was recorded by me in what is now labeled saying number 47: ..." text of logion 47 follows, and conversation is picked up by Gary):
GARY: Are you saying that giving equal value to body, mind, and spirit actually contributes to me coming back here over and over again as a body, rather than being free?
PURSAH: Yes, but this doesn't mean you should neglect your body. We're speaking of another way of looking at it. To finish the ponit about my past beliefs, my Gospel merely recorded things J had said. Unlike the writers of the later Gospels, I was not constantly inserting my opinion. Thus, Thomas ws not so much a reflection of my level of understanding at that time as it is a record of some of J's ideas...
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This statement reminds us of the many ways in which the Course reminds us of the fact that our one real choice is all or nothing, love or murder, and no compromise is possible: accepting the atonement means nothing happened, and thus the ego and the world are utterly meaningless and non-existent.
A member of the DU forum suggested the following Course quote, which is one of the many passages which suggests this either or choice:
quote
You cannot forget the Father because I am with you, and I cannot forget Him. To forget me is to forget yourself and Him Who created you. Our brothers are forgetful. That is why they need your remembrance of me and of Him Who created me. Through this remembrance, you can change their minds about themselves, as I can change yours. Your mind is so powerful a light that you can look into theirs and enlighten them, as I can enlighten yours. I do not want to share my body in communion because this is to share nothing. Would I try to share an illusion with the most holy children of a most holy Father. Yet I do want to share my mind with you because we are of one Mind, and that Mind is ours. See only this Mind everywhere, because only this is everywhere and in everything. It is everything because it encompasses all things within itself. Blessed are you who perceive only this, because you perceive only what is true.
unquote (ACIM-T.7.V.10)
and likewise we might consider:
quote
Life and death, light and darkness, knowledge and perception, are irreconcilable. To believe that they can be reconciled is to believe that God and His Son can not.
unquote (ACIM:T-3.VII.6:6)